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This is where it all started. I and my wife had some comments and suggestions on how the Bangalore Traffic situation can be improved. With that in mind we created a presentation and presented it to the DCP of Bangalore Traffic. It was really nice to see the interest shown by the officials. Discussing further with them made us confident that by working together, Bangalore can be made a lovely place to live and drive. It was a great feeling that our efforts were taken positively and that some of the suggestions will be implemented in time to come.
Another important point that came out after our discussion with the authorities was the sheer strength of common people like me and you. There is no doubt that with the resources and technology at our disposal we can make a huge difference.
The DCP has agreed to give an ear to all the proposed suggestions and implement the ones which will be feasible, considering the resouces available. Also this forum can be used to convey any concerns one wants to share with the traffic police. Any misdoings from the traffic police can also be reported.
So let us start and help the Bangalore traffic police in improving the traffic situation of our city.
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I browsed through this blog and found it interesting. I am sure this will allow users to post their concerns and help in the improvement of traffic in Bangalore.
Thanks to the person who has taken this initiative... I think we as citizens have to join in helping to improve the irritating traffic scenario of bangalore.
So my suggestion ( i saw this in London), some of the cars had stickers behind them saying " As a good citizen of this country, I will not break any traffic rule today".
I think thsi really inspired me while following this car. In my opinion can be very usefull in bangalore..
A good article published in "The Hindu", worth the read.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/thscrip/print.pl?file=2006041001860400.htm&date=2006/04/10/&prd=mp&
An excerpt from the article:
"The way auto-rickshaws and two-wheelers drive — fast and recklessly — it is surprising that there are no speed limits for such vehicles. The traffic police seems inadequate, with a hesitant approach to control speeding vehicles. "
Good Inititive both by blog creator and by DCP traffic police.
I work in Bagmane Teck Park, C V Ramanagar. Every morning I see a traffic jam on the road that leads to BTP( junction that crosses the railway track). I see there is lot of space around the main road, so it would be good to expand the road for better flow of traffic.
nice initiative !!!
when is Metro finally coming up?
Found this, quite interesting:
http://www.btis.in/directions.htm
If the authorities are reading this I have one sincere request rather than a suggestion. Please put a traffic signal at junction where traffic goes from 80ft road to 100ft road in indiragar. I am talking of junction where SBI Bank is located ( near the BSNL office). Every morning and evening I see a traffic jam there.
Apart from the obvious waste of time, the chaotic traffic on our roads creates a hazardous noise and air polluted environment, which takes it's toll on the commuters.
I guess some of the steps we can take from our side to lessen this are
a. Honk when it's absolutely necessary and not otherwise.
b. Walk or use a bicycle whenever possible.
c. Car pool, http://www.commuteeasy.com/ is a good place to see people commuting on your route and car pool with them.
d. Maintain lane discipline.
Authorities can only help when we have done all that we can to get some sanity back into the roads.
Hi,
I was wondering if we could start a citizen traffic police (like the citizen journalists that some news channels have) wherein citizens could be trained to intervene and sort out the smaller traffic jams that occur in our neighbourhoods when no cops are around...
Thanks,
Roshin
I appreciate this initiative. My strong feeling is that if 'Road safety programmes' are made a part of this, it would definitely improve the Bangalore Traffic and most importantly, it would save many precious lives.
Is there a working body which gathers these suggestions and puts them into action?
Hello! Very nice initiative. So here is my first suggestion.
Please please make constant lane/road widths. I almost don't find any road that is of constant width for more that 1/2 km. Take the example of the stretch from Okalipuram to Rajajinagar entrance underpass. This is one of the newly constructed roads and I'm surprised at the variation on the width of this road. The auto-lane created exemplifies this. What intrigues me most is the thought that somebody(some engineer) probably "designed" this on paper? Or, don't tell me this whole stretch was not designed but just constructed.
Why is it important? As is very common with us, we like to fill every little space on the road. So wherever there is even a slightly wider stretch, the density increases and very soon the traffic slows down at the next narrower stretch. The same applies for traffic signals which seem to be made wider on purpose. Packing/unpacking takes time - be it travel bags or files on your PC(zip/unzip). So we have a traffic signal with packed vehicles and the moment the signal turns green, you need to unpack. Precious signal time is lost in unpacking. Observe and you will know. Of course, not filling every nook and corner at a signal is another option but a constant road width also enforces this.
So what do you do of any extra space on the road? Please give it to the poor pedestrians. Uneven width footpaths are any day better(in terms of looks at least) than uneven width roads.
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Agreed, our infrastructure is not the best. Agreed, we have don't have a good public transport. But lets forget these for a while and try to look at why, exactly why, we have such a huge traffic problem? The reason is us! Yes, we "the citizen" are the real culprits.
So, what can be done about it? STRICT ENFORCEMENT. I know that the traffic police lacks man-power. So, this suggestion is to overcome that.
THE SUGGESTION
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1. Create laws similar to other cities like Mumbai, where after 3 traffic offenses, the license is cancelled. And also create a simple process (like punching or ticking on the license) to mark a traffic offense.
2. Create a squad of 6-8 traffic police (you can choose a more appropriate number). The only job of this squad is to randomly choose a road/junction and enforce all the traffic rules VERY STRICTLY. Each day they would choose a totally different location.
The method that this squad adopts is also very important. The presence of this squad should not be obvious for the offenders. This is tricky. But you could choose to have one constable in the uniform and rest all in plain clothes.
If the above are done, I have full confidence that it would create enough fear in the offenders and we will surely see very good results and quickly too.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Naveen.
This suggestion is through my personal experience...... The stickers behind the cabs indicating the phone number to report rash driving or violation of any traffic rule, often do not exist or there would be no response. All the effort in remembering the ph number and the vehicle registration number goes into absolute waste. Even if one gets lucky and somebody responds to the call and acknowledges you for the complaint, you are not sure if it has reached the right person and that right person has instructed / taken action against 'that' particular driver. So, the whole funda of reporting rash driving seems procedural just for the company's sake.
I suggest there should be a way of recognizing these cabs and the complaint made should be reported into some authenticated database and thus a legal/right action to be taken.
suggestion -
1. Stickers to be made compulsory behind all company/organisation owned vehicles indicating clearly the right phone number where one can expect a response.
2. The complaints made to be officially reported into a centralised database. This could be monitored by a legal body.
My intention is not to target only the cab drivers as it is not fair to blame only one section of road users.
Thanks and regards,
Vani
One of the traffic hotspots is the road near funworld. Traffic from cantonment side as well as Nandi Durg road feeds into this tiny road towards mekri circle. If nandi durg road can be made a one way that allows traffic only from fun world towards ulsoor, this may reduce the jam thats created here.
This initiative is the best I have seen so far on the traffic improvement front. Kudos to both of you.
There can be numerous ways in which traffic condition in our city can be improved.
Adding new roads and expanding existing roads is the best option, but the way city has developed, I guess there is no place to add new road (expect in new areas) and left with little option to expand them.
Some small but quite effective suggestion could be impose lane discipline in the city. Which is very necessary for smooth commutation.
Car pooling is a good option. Also, using company buses instead of cars help in less traffic and pollution.
There is another way, where we can change the timings of schools and offices. This will help in reducing the traffic during peak hours.
Like, schools can start an hour early and offices at different time.
It will be difficult initially but later of things will come in place.
1. Its obvious the roads in Bangalore are currently incapable of supporting the ever increasing number of vehicles. And its equally obvious that there is no short term solutions to the problem. Why not think of alternatives like reducing the number of vehicles - like staggering the vehicles on the road - by permitting only Even numbered vehicles to ply the roads on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays while Odd numbered vehicles take the road on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Sundays can be sort of free-for-all. This way, the number of vehicles on the road are halved in one step.
I admit this will not be a popular solution, but harsh measures are required for harsher problems. Public service vehicles like Police, ambulances, BMTC buses, etc., should be left out of this while all other types of vehicles - both private and public should be brought under the purview of this rule. This is not my idea - this was actually applied in some countries abroad - on short term or long term basis.
2. Another idea - which has already been suggested in this blog - is improving the condition of the roads; not just increasing the width but also the condition. For instance, my office trip takes me along Jakkasandra junction - where the condition of the road is so pathetic, I shudder to even think.
3. This is something which has been tested but not applied seriously in Bangalore, viz., specific lanes for Autos. I have noticed that irrespective of the width/lanes on the road - whether it is two lanes or six lanes - the autos somehow manage to block the whole width of the road. If they are restricted to a single lane, it would certainly improve the flow of traffic.
4. The autos could also be restricted from entering certain high traffic zones. This has been implemented in many Indian cities, like Bombay for instance.
5. Special lanes for BMTC buses would definitely help a lot. As a bus occupies more area of the road, it is logical to say that as long as the bus keeps moving steadily , the better it is for the traffic situation. As the efficiency of bus transport system effects a majority - both the bus users and other road users, this is something which should be given serious consideration. This has been applied successfully in many countries, for instance in London.
6. I travel by bike to office, because I have no other option. I - for one - am ready to take the public transport system if - and thats a very big IF - it is efficient. BMTC buses should run regularly and on time. I admit the traffic and the jams break or delay the schedule, but I've also noticed that the bus drivers are quite sloppy when it comes to sticking to schedules.
For instance I live at HSR Layout, and just a kilometer down the road is Parangipalaya, where all the BMTC routes terminate. I've very often noticed that buses would go to Parangipalaya and stay there for 30-45 minutes at end before returning! I can understand if the driver/conductor take a 10-15minute tea break and return, but no, they just take their own sweet time. As the BMTC has been installing GPS systems on the buses, why can't they monitor this and run it more efficiently?
Another peculiarity often noticed is that three to four buses would go in and come out - in convoy! - after 30-45, thus serving no one in particular, neither the public nor the BMTC. If only they had come out one at a time, with a 10 minute gap in-between, it would have been a lot better. My complaints to BMTC has apparently produced no results.
I'm sure there are many more like me who would readily take their vehicle off the road if only we had a better public transport system.
5. IT and other Companies located in the outskirts of the city are providing transport while those in the city do not. They should be encouraged to provide transport - vans and buses - to their employees which would take a lot of private vehicles off the road.
I was going through some of the topics that have been discussed here. I do have a suggestion here. My office is in ITPL and my house is on Arekere Gate. Now a day, it takes me around 2 hours to go back to home. I found that in most of the cases the service lanes are creating problem. People take the service road to go fast. It increases the congestion near the junction and causes unnecessary traffic jam. Also it forces the other vehicles to wait more than expected time. This is the same scenario that you are in a queue and people, who come after you, are entering the queue before you and hence you are not able to access the counter at the expected time. This is totally an administrative issue and can be handled very easily by restricting people not to take the service road. This can be done by putting the barricade at the middle of the service road (or by any other viable option).
My second observation is near the Silk Board junction. This is such a huge road and still we face jam here. This is because the vehicles take left turn from the middle of the road and blocks the other vehicle. On the other hand the vehicles, which intend to go straight block the left lane. To aggravate the condition some BMTC buses are parked on the left lane. The message is very clear here. Keep the left lane clear for left moving vehicles and I’m 100% sure that it will bring down the traffic by 50%.
My third observation is near Bellandur Junction. Again, this is a service road problem. Here right turning vehicles block the left lane. The solution is same as that of point one.
Another traffic congested junction is Belandur Gate. This is a four way junction with heavy traffic. We must have a traffic Signal here.
Overall I think that people like us are responsible for all jams. This happens because of lack of Traffic awareness. Where it is not possible to adopt the Western Country like traffic system immediately, it is quite possible to disseminate the best practice among the public though TV, Radio or any other media.
Educate & Enforce.
Half of bangalore's traffic jams can be solved if ppl were little more patient. Lets educate ppl on good driving ethics. Lets educate ppl on basic driving rules.
Lets have a compulsary test(someone already sggested this), that needs to be cleared by everyone, once every 2 yrs(just like polution certificate). This way in atleast 4-6 years public awareness for tarfic rules would increase.
And lastly start imposing fines on defaulters seriously.
So many times I see Cab drivers and auto drivers breaking traffic rules(at traffic signals) and being let off by traffic cop after an animated visual warning. This should stop.Just slap a fine right there and they will never repeat the offence.
Increasing fine may not help.As that will promote bribary. Small amount of fine, if paid 100 times(and believe me short sighted ppl will think that they escaped a rule break by just paying 100 bucks, but when they will see there monthly outflow on rule breaks, they will start thinkin otherwise) will have the desired effect. Smaller amounts of fine will also make traffic cops think twice before accepting even smaller bribes vs being caught.
The idea is not to set ppl on the right track overnight..but gradually...remember humans do not like sudden change.
I have one simple question for traffic Police:
Why does the traffic police do not fine the people who are breaking the rules. For eg consider any traffic signal . When the signal goes green people make the road one way and everyone entersn the incoming traffic lane and bypasses the people who are standing in line. I have seen people doing this and passing in fron tof the traffic police man, who doesnt even care to see and stop people from doing this.
I understand that this helps to pass more vehicles from a junction in less time but this is very provoking for people who quietly stand in line to start doing this next time they come to the signal. By allowing this the police is supporting and promoting people to break rules.
It will be great if high guard rails can be put along the divider on Outer Ring Road streach from Marathalli to Sarjapur Road Junction. This will stop pedestrians from running across ORR which can create serious safety issues both for drivers & pedestrians.
seems to be a great initiative of the traffic police and dedicated citizens.
I have a suggestion.
Create proper dividers on roads connecting to main roads. Several places i have seen that people make these roads as one ways and
this makes the traffic prone to accidents. Dividers may be temporary ones but should be immediately deployed.
I have 2 suggestions:
1. BMTC buses should not be allowed to stop where ever they want. I think this has to come from top to bottom. So the correct authorites should be
asked to train ther drivers to stop the buses only on bus stands. If there is already a bus on the stand they should stop behind the bus not parallel to it.
2. Old madras road railway underpass must be broadened.
i was on jayamahal road the other day and saw there is lot of scope to widen the road. I have mailed the proposed suggestion on your gmail id.
I recently moved to the Sarjapur Outer Ring Road area and was shocked to see the state of traffic at the Bellandur intersection.
Inspite of multiple policemen there, it was utter chaos.
The policemen are not able to control the situation. Cannot blame them. They have to be empowered.
Either build an underpass there (long term solution)
OR add another U turn opposite Salarpuria Softzone. This will reduce the number vehicles waiting for a U turn at the Belandur intersection.
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HYDERABAD: Commuters can call the helpline '1074' in case auto drivers having digital meters refuse to take them to their destination or demand extra fare.
Responding to a news item published in these columns on Wednesday, transport commissioner Poonam Malakondaiah said action would be taken against auto drivers if they insisted on plying without turning on digital meters. The transport commissioner said after December 31 all the autos without digital meters would be seized.
On the threat of auto unions to go on strike from January 2, 2008 if the minimum fare was not increased to Rs 14, she said their demand was unjustified. She pointed out that in Delhi, the minimum fare was Rs 8.
If any auto driver failed to use digital meter or if the passenger felt that the mechanical meter was tampered with, one should call the toll free number ‘1074’. An erring auto driver would be slapped a fine of Rs 500
Hi,
It is a good initiative.
Rather than simply commenting on the worsening traffic situation this type of blog helps to identify the problem and also helps the authorities and public to evolve appropriate counter measures.
Hats off to you
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It is very common in Bangalore that all the BMTC bus stops are just empty shades. Almost all the buses are stop just before or after and big junctions, which are the foremost reason for all the traffic jams on Bangalore road. Why cannot the traffic police force the bus to stop at dedicated bus stops. This will definitely ease the traffic at junctions.
The road from Hebbal to New Airport is right now just tolerable from the trafic jam point of view. With North Bangalore's prospects for raqpid & huge growth, we need to pay quick attention at all the traffic signals starting from Kodigehalli.
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2) Divert traffic toward Yelahanka town via the Railway over bridge situated within GKVK and continue the out going traffic from Yelahanka town via the present railway level crossing gate. This would decongest the traffic problem at this gate.
3) Take up construction of an underpass or flyover at this junction so the traffic signal is done away with.
4) If diverting traffic via GKVK is difficult due to adamancy of GKVK, we may construct another level crossing one for in coming and the other for outgoing from Yelahanka town / Alla-la-sandra.
5) One should learn from the underpass constructed between Yelahanka Air base and residential quarters situated across the new airport road.
Turn from Outer Ring Road (ORR) to Whitefield (if traveling from silk board) is totally blocked in morning hours. Currently vehicles have to make U turn instead of right turn because of current opening in median. If this opening is shifted few meters before the current opening, it will be easy for big vehicles to move smoothly. currently all big vehicles cover three lanes to make U turn and block complete ring road. BBMP/traffic police can get it fixed very easily.
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1)Make sure the Address on Driving licenses is latest & accurate
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3) i have multiple ideas to restrict everyone to follow lanes, this will reduce congestion's at least by 50% , people don't realize that the most of traffic jams are due to people driving without following lane system, like people turning right be on right turning left on left lane.
4) I have ideas to force people to not drive on opposite direction of the road.
5) stop parking on the main roads.As parking on both sides of the road occupy one lane and hence causing most of the road is blocked and two lane road is reduced to one lane.
6)Forcing everyone to follow lane will help ambulance to traverse through traffic as quick as possible.
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Thus will ensure that jams at that u-turn are reduced.
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The tech park is located in the service road.
To come to tech park one has to either take U turn over the subway if coming from marathalli.
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Considering that another tech park is going to open next to prestige tech park.
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